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05-20 08:16 AM
http://www.immigration-law.com/
05/19/2008: Passage of H.R. 5571 for IMGs Failed Today and Postponed Until a Later Date
The House floor failed to pass this bill and postponed until the undetermined date for final action. :(
This bill was supposed to be less controversial than EB recapture bills?
05/19/2008: Passage of H.R. 5571 for IMGs Failed Today and Postponed Until a Later Date
The House floor failed to pass this bill and postponed until the undetermined date for final action. :(
This bill was supposed to be less controversial than EB recapture bills?
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gc_chahiye
11-29 04:38 PM
Hello Gurus,
I got an RFE email yesterday for "additional evidence and/or information" for my pending I-485 (filed Jan 05 for Jun03PD, approved I-140). Hope to get the RFE letter by next week. I am hoping that the RFE is for the usual EVL/pay-stubs/tax-returns/ question.
Meanwhile I have travel plans starting Dec 13th. So want to get the answers/requested documents to the attorney before I leave. Since my status is still AOS(pending I-485) and I have a valid AP, I am assuming there should be a problem at the POE ? what you guys think?
thanks.
Yes, you can re-enter on AP even if your 485 gets approved in your absence. Carry your AP, 485 receipt copy etc with you.
Only potential for trouble is if your 485 gets denied for some reason. Then the only way to re-enter would be some visa...
I got an RFE email yesterday for "additional evidence and/or information" for my pending I-485 (filed Jan 05 for Jun03PD, approved I-140). Hope to get the RFE letter by next week. I am hoping that the RFE is for the usual EVL/pay-stubs/tax-returns/ question.
Meanwhile I have travel plans starting Dec 13th. So want to get the answers/requested documents to the attorney before I leave. Since my status is still AOS(pending I-485) and I have a valid AP, I am assuming there should be a problem at the POE ? what you guys think?
thanks.
Yes, you can re-enter on AP even if your 485 gets approved in your absence. Carry your AP, 485 receipt copy etc with you.
Only potential for trouble is if your 485 gets denied for some reason. Then the only way to re-enter would be some visa...
walking_dude
12-05 04:53 PM
If I'm not wrong AILF is the litigation arm of AILA, meaning AILF is a subsidiary of AILA. Not an independent org.
AILF is a non-profit organization. You are probably right regarding AILA :)
AILF is a non-profit organization. You are probably right regarding AILA :)
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sweet_jungle
12-29 06:26 PM
3 year h1 extension requires I140 to be approved plus non-current priority dates. You can get a copy of the approval from your attorney
Getting I-140 approval copy is not possible.
I only have case number prinout.
anyways, it is not a big deal. Worst case, I will get 1 year extension.
It is not going to deter me from exercising AC-21.
Getting I-140 approval copy is not possible.
I only have case number prinout.
anyways, it is not a big deal. Worst case, I will get 1 year extension.
It is not going to deter me from exercising AC-21.
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fittan
04-23 03:26 PM
gc28262,
I respectfully disagree. As you all know, the USCIS (online and phone) system is completely different from Infopass. What appears on the former is usually inaccurate. I know this because both my wife and I have received our GC but our online I-140 is still pending.
I am adament about this because I moved in Jan 08 and submitted AR-11. In July 08, my wife online status shows that a RFE was sent. We waited anxiously for 2 months for this letter. Then we went to Infopass and found out that they still have the old address. By the way, my address was updated. Few days after Infopass, the letter finally came. It was enclosed in another envelope (because the orginal bounced and USCIS resent to new address).
I think everyone should use Infopass frequently. Use it to check if your name check and biometric are cleared. Asked if there's any flag. Where your case is physically and of course your current address. I go to the Boston office all the time and it is usually empty in the morning. Whether the Infopass office is packed or empty has nothing to do with when you'll get your GC; there's 6 counters and I doubt they'll increase it if there're more people.
Fittan
I respectfully disagree. As you all know, the USCIS (online and phone) system is completely different from Infopass. What appears on the former is usually inaccurate. I know this because both my wife and I have received our GC but our online I-140 is still pending.
I am adament about this because I moved in Jan 08 and submitted AR-11. In July 08, my wife online status shows that a RFE was sent. We waited anxiously for 2 months for this letter. Then we went to Infopass and found out that they still have the old address. By the way, my address was updated. Few days after Infopass, the letter finally came. It was enclosed in another envelope (because the orginal bounced and USCIS resent to new address).
I think everyone should use Infopass frequently. Use it to check if your name check and biometric are cleared. Asked if there's any flag. Where your case is physically and of course your current address. I go to the Boston office all the time and it is usually empty in the morning. Whether the Infopass office is packed or empty has nothing to do with when you'll get your GC; there's 6 counters and I doubt they'll increase it if there're more people.
Fittan
gc_relief
04-27 03:24 PM
I have updated my profile..
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optimystic
09-10 08:11 PM
Thanks for encouraging comments from everyone. I hope some one from core team also takes notice of this and gives it some consideration.
May be we could tie this campaign as part of gaining support for approval of 5882 (visa recapture)
May be we could tie this campaign as part of gaining support for approval of 5882 (visa recapture)
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Prashanthi
08-21 01:54 PM
I received an RFE from USCIS 10 days after the date on the letter and need to respond in 33 days.
I came to US through Company A in June 2007 and was with them until Dec 2006. This Company A had applied for my labor and I140 and both of them were approved through them. I joined Company B in Jan of 2007(change of H1) and was with them until April of 2007. I joined Company C in April 2007(change of H1) and been with them since. Company C would not do my GC.
During the July 2007 fiasco, Company A agreed to give me an offer letter that I submitted with my 485 application and my attorney (a good reputed one) mentioned in the application that I was working for company C.
I got an RFE now stating that I did not send my sealed medical exam which I had done and we have a scan of what was sent. They also want �a current letter of employment attesting to your offer of proposed employment. This letter should be written on the company�s official letterhead and cite the date you will begin working, whether the position is temporary or permanent , a description of the position, a description of the position that you currently hold for the company (if any), and offered salary�
Is this RFE bad? What might have triggered this RFW? Now my attorney suggests that since I had filed 485 through company A and I did not really invoke AC21 that I should give a new offer letter from Company A (they are willing to give one). My question is if I do that will there be further questions? The company I work for is a bigger one and Company A is really a body shopper, so I want to go with the letter from the current company. Also since it more than 2 years since I applied for 485 can I say I invoked AC 21? When can I disassociate myself from company A as I do not want to lose my current job.
I would like the attorneys or the members valuable help. Please do offer your opinions. Thank you all in advance.
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The RFE is not unusual, they are sending RFE's on all pending I-485 applications in an attempt to pre-process the applications and have them ready before the priority date becomes available.
Even though the beneficiary does not have to be working for the GC sponsoring company and the offer of employment can be a future offer, i always advice my clients to work for the sponsoring employer, if possible, otherwise the USCIS might raise the issue of the validity of the job offer, they have done this in the past. I also always advice clients to do AC-21 whenever they can, rather than depend on future employment.
It is difficult to predict what the Officers decision will be and what factors he will look at, and your attorney is not wrong in his response, however if you were my client i would advice you to use AC-21. The USCIS has not indicated that AC-21 has to be invoked as soon as you join the new employer, no deadline for invoking AC-21. However, you should have a GC sponsor at all times to keep your GC alive. In your case, company A was your sponsor until the time that company C has agreed to be your sponsor and invoke AC-21.
It is also good to invoke AC-21 because at the time of filing for citizenship they will see if you worked for your sponsoring employer for at least 6 months after getting the GC and if you did not, they will ask why dint you.
I came to US through Company A in June 2007 and was with them until Dec 2006. This Company A had applied for my labor and I140 and both of them were approved through them. I joined Company B in Jan of 2007(change of H1) and was with them until April of 2007. I joined Company C in April 2007(change of H1) and been with them since. Company C would not do my GC.
During the July 2007 fiasco, Company A agreed to give me an offer letter that I submitted with my 485 application and my attorney (a good reputed one) mentioned in the application that I was working for company C.
I got an RFE now stating that I did not send my sealed medical exam which I had done and we have a scan of what was sent. They also want �a current letter of employment attesting to your offer of proposed employment. This letter should be written on the company�s official letterhead and cite the date you will begin working, whether the position is temporary or permanent , a description of the position, a description of the position that you currently hold for the company (if any), and offered salary�
Is this RFE bad? What might have triggered this RFW? Now my attorney suggests that since I had filed 485 through company A and I did not really invoke AC21 that I should give a new offer letter from Company A (they are willing to give one). My question is if I do that will there be further questions? The company I work for is a bigger one and Company A is really a body shopper, so I want to go with the letter from the current company. Also since it more than 2 years since I applied for 485 can I say I invoked AC 21? When can I disassociate myself from company A as I do not want to lose my current job.
I would like the attorneys or the members valuable help. Please do offer your opinions. Thank you all in advance.
__________________
The RFE is not unusual, they are sending RFE's on all pending I-485 applications in an attempt to pre-process the applications and have them ready before the priority date becomes available.
Even though the beneficiary does not have to be working for the GC sponsoring company and the offer of employment can be a future offer, i always advice my clients to work for the sponsoring employer, if possible, otherwise the USCIS might raise the issue of the validity of the job offer, they have done this in the past. I also always advice clients to do AC-21 whenever they can, rather than depend on future employment.
It is difficult to predict what the Officers decision will be and what factors he will look at, and your attorney is not wrong in his response, however if you were my client i would advice you to use AC-21. The USCIS has not indicated that AC-21 has to be invoked as soon as you join the new employer, no deadline for invoking AC-21. However, you should have a GC sponsor at all times to keep your GC alive. In your case, company A was your sponsor until the time that company C has agreed to be your sponsor and invoke AC-21.
It is also good to invoke AC-21 because at the time of filing for citizenship they will see if you worked for your sponsoring employer for at least 6 months after getting the GC and if you did not, they will ask why dint you.
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Chris Rock
08-13 02:02 AM
We are open to all possibilities in getting relief (big or small) for the community.
You may want to read more about the process of a bill , politics of the immigration issue and how it affects any bill. It is not as simple as one line amendment.
Please get involved with IV and learn more what we are doing. Try getting appointments with your lawmakers and take part in action items. We currently have an action item going. You will know how the process of amendment and bills work. Opening threads asking IV core is not going to help.Help yourself by actively getting involved.
BTW Could you update/complete your profile. This data is helpful for IV advocacy efforts and also for IV tracker.
Thanks Pappu for your reply.
I am not trying to get your status report. I do not want your battle plan either. I am trying to figure out if there is any ray of hope...
Yes there is no one-line amendment. But the objective of an amendment can be one line. That is what I mean. I saw many amendments before and am familiar with the political jargon. You are thinking that I am a novice when it comes to Immigration. That is ok and that is not the issue here.
Recently in one fundraising thread, I counted the number of retrogressed PD members contribution to others. Its in the ratio 1:5. The reason for this thread started at that time.
If members know that IV has the right strategy and right connections then the support to IV will be overwhelming. That is all I want to convey in the thread.
You may want to read more about the process of a bill , politics of the immigration issue and how it affects any bill. It is not as simple as one line amendment.
Please get involved with IV and learn more what we are doing. Try getting appointments with your lawmakers and take part in action items. We currently have an action item going. You will know how the process of amendment and bills work. Opening threads asking IV core is not going to help.Help yourself by actively getting involved.
BTW Could you update/complete your profile. This data is helpful for IV advocacy efforts and also for IV tracker.
Thanks Pappu for your reply.
I am not trying to get your status report. I do not want your battle plan either. I am trying to figure out if there is any ray of hope...
Yes there is no one-line amendment. But the objective of an amendment can be one line. That is what I mean. I saw many amendments before and am familiar with the political jargon. You are thinking that I am a novice when it comes to Immigration. That is ok and that is not the issue here.
Recently in one fundraising thread, I counted the number of retrogressed PD members contribution to others. Its in the ratio 1:5. The reason for this thread started at that time.
If members know that IV has the right strategy and right connections then the support to IV will be overwhelming. That is all I want to convey in the thread.
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setpit_gc
06-03 01:56 PM
TSC received my RFE response on 05/27/2009.
I got 1st LUD on 05/31/2009 with message change.
I got 2 soft lud on 06/02/2009 and 06/03/2009.
I got 1st LUD on 05/31/2009 with message change.
I got 2 soft lud on 06/02/2009 and 06/03/2009.
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willwin
03-22 05:05 PM
This PWD has easily become another "major" process in the very long, frustrating GC journey.
PWD-LC-I140-AOS!!!
Don't be surprised if they bring a premium processing for PWD request and charge $1000 for that.
PWD-LC-I140-AOS!!!
Don't be surprised if they bring a premium processing for PWD request and charge $1000 for that.
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gc@waiting
08-21 06:51 PM
My corporate attorney told me that one is okay as long as one doesn't sya beyond 180 days from expiry without applying for a renewal, so you have 6 months to apply.
Better check with an attorney, but I am sure you are just fine.
Also, we had a 'nunc-pro-tunk' situation, but that kicks in only after 180 days , so I told.
Better check with an attorney, but I am sure you are just fine.
Also, we had a 'nunc-pro-tunk' situation, but that kicks in only after 180 days , so I told.
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immihelp1
09-29 06:36 AM
Singhsa & Smisachu,
Thank you for sharing your experiences.
Thank you for sharing your experiences.
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roseball
03-08 11:40 PM
Hi,
My husband's H1B is over on 22nd February 2008. Now he trying to file AC21 with another company. Is there any way he can apply for H1B transfer with that company as couple of weeks already passed? Appreciate your help.
If not already done so, I would suggest you contact a good attorney immediately and not rely on forums on what to do.....
My husband's H1B is over on 22nd February 2008. Now he trying to file AC21 with another company. Is there any way he can apply for H1B transfer with that company as couple of weeks already passed? Appreciate your help.
If not already done so, I would suggest you contact a good attorney immediately and not rely on forums on what to do.....
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skgc
04-08 03:45 AM
i am not a lawyer, so what i state here is from my personal experience. i have been to hawaii on an H1B 3 years ago. there was absolutely no problem anywhere. its like flying to any of the 48 mainland states. no one asked for passports anywhere ( i did not even carry it).
I ofcourse flew to hawaii, but i have taken cruises to mexico.
as long as the cruise ship does not touch a foreign port, you are good. check with the cruise company if they need a passport. they usually have info on what is required. before entering the ship, your papers are checked and if there is something needed for immigration when you return(like from mexico), they wont let you in until you show them the documents.
since you are boarding from US, visiting an US state, coming back to US, there should be no problem.
-sk
I ofcourse flew to hawaii, but i have taken cruises to mexico.
as long as the cruise ship does not touch a foreign port, you are good. check with the cruise company if they need a passport. they usually have info on what is required. before entering the ship, your papers are checked and if there is something needed for immigration when you return(like from mexico), they wont let you in until you show them the documents.
since you are boarding from US, visiting an US state, coming back to US, there should be no problem.
-sk
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calabor2001
06-20 05:44 PM
Its kinda sad, but I can relate with both the sides here. For folks who are stuck in the stupid AAP (NameCheck, Security Clearance) - the life is harsh - especially if you just came for a quick trip. I am dealing with it for the last 5.5 months and it hasn't been easy. Thankfully, we have a workaround.
But yes, I do agree that missing a lifetime wedding of a sibling because you will get stuck for a few months is perhaps taking it too far. Now, I know folks who have/are doing this and they have valid reasons. We all have our own reasons and to each his /her own.
If you can get Advance Parole then travel with it. If you cannot, then just be prepared for the long haul and prepare your company/client - lawyer and ensure there is a support system that will see through your obligations in States. US Govt. will eventually clear the Visa - the sibling may not necessarily marry again! :) Make your choice! Good Luck and do the right thing for you!!!
But yes, I do agree that missing a lifetime wedding of a sibling because you will get stuck for a few months is perhaps taking it too far. Now, I know folks who have/are doing this and they have valid reasons. We all have our own reasons and to each his /her own.
If you can get Advance Parole then travel with it. If you cannot, then just be prepared for the long haul and prepare your company/client - lawyer and ensure there is a support system that will see through your obligations in States. US Govt. will eventually clear the Visa - the sibling may not necessarily marry again! :) Make your choice! Good Luck and do the right thing for you!!!
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walking_dude
08-01 11:20 PM
Dear Tennesseans,
I have started the Tennessee chapter of IV with the approval of the IV core. I request you to join me in fighting the injustice heaped on us for no fault of ours. Like all other state chapters IV TN will be a secure and trusted group of like-mided individuals. Hence I request you to provide your full name, IV Id, PHONE NUMBER and Zip Code while submitting request to join the group.
I appreciate your concern for privacy and anonymity. But we also have to keep state chapters clear of anonymous anti-immigrants opposed to our cause. Hence no exceptions will be made to the rule. I will call and verify you as soon as I can. If you feel inconvenienced, please understand that I'll have to call and verify every one who requests to join. This is something we have to bear for the common good of our organization.
Ping me through a Private Message if you feel your request has been unduly delayed. Of course, I can't approve you if you haven't given be the mandatory information essential in approving requests. I appreciate your cooperation in this process.
If you are interested in my Bios, I have previously led the Michigan (MI) chapter. My contributions to IV includes Testimony before the MI Senate when MI state refused to issue DLs to temporary residents. I am a monthly contributor to IV, and have contributed to most of the recent IV funding drives. I am a Sep 18th rally veteran and recently visited Washington DC a few months back - in person - to lobby for some of the bills that are considered 'Hot News' today.
All this is nothing compared to what IV has given back to me as an organization. I was saved thousands of dollars due to July VB reversal. EAD helped me change jobs and leave MI in this tough economic downturn and auto companies inching toward bankruptcy. I just got my 2 year EAD today , and I thank IV for saving me hundreds of Dollars by getting EAD/AP period extended to 2 years. I don't know any other organization or person who has done so much for me. I am immensely grateful to be part of this movement.
It's my pleasure to start a volunteer group in the 'Volunteer State'. Hope we won't be short of volunteers :). It makes me nostalgic about the times MI chapter started as a group of few individuals and today boasts of 60+ members. Lets get organized here too. That's the only way to make our voices heard.
This is my promise to you - I won't ask you to do anything which I haven't done myself. And I won't force you to do anything, unless you feel that waiting for others to step up will not take you anywhere, and you feel ready to do something to help yourself and your family. When you decide to do that, you'll find me by your side working with you.
IV TN Chapter Web Address - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ivtn
REQUESTS WITHOUT PHONE NUMBER AND COMPLETE INFO WILL NOT BE APPROVED.
I have started the Tennessee chapter of IV with the approval of the IV core. I request you to join me in fighting the injustice heaped on us for no fault of ours. Like all other state chapters IV TN will be a secure and trusted group of like-mided individuals. Hence I request you to provide your full name, IV Id, PHONE NUMBER and Zip Code while submitting request to join the group.
I appreciate your concern for privacy and anonymity. But we also have to keep state chapters clear of anonymous anti-immigrants opposed to our cause. Hence no exceptions will be made to the rule. I will call and verify you as soon as I can. If you feel inconvenienced, please understand that I'll have to call and verify every one who requests to join. This is something we have to bear for the common good of our organization.
Ping me through a Private Message if you feel your request has been unduly delayed. Of course, I can't approve you if you haven't given be the mandatory information essential in approving requests. I appreciate your cooperation in this process.
If you are interested in my Bios, I have previously led the Michigan (MI) chapter. My contributions to IV includes Testimony before the MI Senate when MI state refused to issue DLs to temporary residents. I am a monthly contributor to IV, and have contributed to most of the recent IV funding drives. I am a Sep 18th rally veteran and recently visited Washington DC a few months back - in person - to lobby for some of the bills that are considered 'Hot News' today.
All this is nothing compared to what IV has given back to me as an organization. I was saved thousands of dollars due to July VB reversal. EAD helped me change jobs and leave MI in this tough economic downturn and auto companies inching toward bankruptcy. I just got my 2 year EAD today , and I thank IV for saving me hundreds of Dollars by getting EAD/AP period extended to 2 years. I don't know any other organization or person who has done so much for me. I am immensely grateful to be part of this movement.
It's my pleasure to start a volunteer group in the 'Volunteer State'. Hope we won't be short of volunteers :). It makes me nostalgic about the times MI chapter started as a group of few individuals and today boasts of 60+ members. Lets get organized here too. That's the only way to make our voices heard.
This is my promise to you - I won't ask you to do anything which I haven't done myself. And I won't force you to do anything, unless you feel that waiting for others to step up will not take you anywhere, and you feel ready to do something to help yourself and your family. When you decide to do that, you'll find me by your side working with you.
IV TN Chapter Web Address - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ivtn
REQUESTS WITHOUT PHONE NUMBER AND COMPLETE INFO WILL NOT BE APPROVED.
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number30
06-19 01:30 PM
Hello All,
I am contacting you regarding an Inquiry of
" H1B Approved without I-94 and to appeal for I-290B.
I applied for H1B Visa on Dec 23rd 2008 or change of status from H4 to H1B, H4 is Valid till Aug 06, 2009.
Please note that i was already on h1b from Oct 01st 2004 till Sep 30th , 2007, then again i applied for H4 on Dec 27th 2006 till AUG 06TH 09 2009..
So i don't fall under New H1 Quota, i.e H1CAP
keeping this in mind and only after filing, i received the receipt number on Dec 23rd 2008,and started working immediately from then onwards.
On May 01st, 2009 there was a query to my company and also on me whether i am maintaining valid non immigrant H1B classification.
On May 21st 2009, i received a letter from USCIS
saying that a response was received in which it included two pay statements for period of Jan 2009 and Feb 2009, they mentioned that the beneficiary was not eligible to work at this time and appears to have been working in United States without permission.
Change of status is denied, how ever your petition is Approved and go to Chennai for processing.Or submit a Motion to Reopen (Form I-290B ).\
Please advice me what should i do.
If i submit Form 1-290B, what are the grounds that i have to justify as it is clearly mentioned that i was not eligible to work at this time, but i am assuming that once you apply for H1 you can start working , then why in my case they have mentioned as illegal.
Second query is after applying for I-290B, can i continue to work or should i stop working until i get the update from USCIS regarding COS.
Third Query is should i apply for a new H1 and continue working.
Please advice me on this issue.
Hoping to hear from you Soon.
Thanks a lot for your help,
You can start working immediately after filing H1, only if you are doing H1 transfer. Here you are doing Change of Status from H4 to H1. So you are NOT allowed to work immediately after filing. GO out of US as soon as possible. Filing 290B may not help you much. You have to come back with new stamping.
I am contacting you regarding an Inquiry of
" H1B Approved without I-94 and to appeal for I-290B.
I applied for H1B Visa on Dec 23rd 2008 or change of status from H4 to H1B, H4 is Valid till Aug 06, 2009.
Please note that i was already on h1b from Oct 01st 2004 till Sep 30th , 2007, then again i applied for H4 on Dec 27th 2006 till AUG 06TH 09 2009..
So i don't fall under New H1 Quota, i.e H1CAP
keeping this in mind and only after filing, i received the receipt number on Dec 23rd 2008,and started working immediately from then onwards.
On May 01st, 2009 there was a query to my company and also on me whether i am maintaining valid non immigrant H1B classification.
On May 21st 2009, i received a letter from USCIS
saying that a response was received in which it included two pay statements for period of Jan 2009 and Feb 2009, they mentioned that the beneficiary was not eligible to work at this time and appears to have been working in United States without permission.
Change of status is denied, how ever your petition is Approved and go to Chennai for processing.Or submit a Motion to Reopen (Form I-290B ).\
Please advice me what should i do.
If i submit Form 1-290B, what are the grounds that i have to justify as it is clearly mentioned that i was not eligible to work at this time, but i am assuming that once you apply for H1 you can start working , then why in my case they have mentioned as illegal.
Second query is after applying for I-290B, can i continue to work or should i stop working until i get the update from USCIS regarding COS.
Third Query is should i apply for a new H1 and continue working.
Please advice me on this issue.
Hoping to hear from you Soon.
Thanks a lot for your help,
You can start working immediately after filing H1, only if you are doing H1 transfer. Here you are doing Change of Status from H4 to H1. So you are NOT allowed to work immediately after filing. GO out of US as soon as possible. Filing 290B may not help you much. You have to come back with new stamping.
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arunsush
02-01 11:25 AM
please check your PM
Check your PM...
Check your PM...
Munna Bhai
01-08 03:25 PM
How about two differrent dates for getting the visa stampped? Husband will go on one date and wife on another date, will this work? And they have kid born in INDIA. Any chance !!
gctest
10-04 03:52 PM
finally approved... got magic emails this morning :D:D
How does one go about canceling the pending EB2-NIW i-485 (possibly get the money back... will be glad to donate it all to IV :D:D)
How does one go about canceling the pending EB2-NIW i-485 (possibly get the money back... will be glad to donate it all to IV :D:D)
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